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Maybe we won't find a Superstar

"DSDS"-Jurors Bill and Tom Kaulitz open up about secrets, bad ratings, their band Tokio Hotel and give young musicians some tips.

• Bill and Tom Kaulitz, what's harder for you: Making music or talking about music as "DSDS"-Jurors?
TOM: Judging the candidates isn't that hard, because it wasn't our goal to be super nice or extremely strict before the show started. Our goal was to judge the candidates like we would do it at home, sitting on our couch and watching the show. What I had to get used to was being filmed the whole time. I really don't like that. I like it as much as I like hearing my voice or seeing pictures of myself. It was already like that for me when I went to school. I hate it.

• Then you chose the wrong job...?
TOM: Videoshoots and Photoshoots are definitely part of that, but playing live and producing music is more my thing. With Bill it's completely different...
BILL: I don't really think about the fact that a lot of people are watching "DSDS" or about the way I should phrase my sentences...
TOM: … but you should.
BILL: My strategy is being as honest as possible.

• As part of the jury you're in charge of finding Germany's next "Superstar". What does being a "Superstar" mean to you?
BILL: Precisely, the things that you can't explain. That feeling, that you can't get enough when the person gets off the stage, that this person stays a mystery to you. This special kind of charisma.
TOM: A lot of candidates come to us and say: "Please give me another chance, I can work on it." But that's often what doesn't help them at all. There is a certain level of potential and talent that you can't teach someone. I also think that there are less people who already carry that talent around with them their whole life. That's why it could happen that we won't find a Superstar at the end of the show - but the chances of finding one aren't that bad!

• What else is new? Every "DSDS"-winner ended up in the Charts, but none of them are Superstars.
TOM: For the winners it is of course difficult, because there's a new season every year and therefore also a new "Superstar".
BILL: And luck plays a big role as well. In the end, it's also all about which candidate the viewers choose as the winner. Maybe a lot of the decisions made in the past years were just the wrong ones.

• It is also possible that a casting show that follows the candidates every move takes a lot of the things away that make a "Superstar": the secrecy, the things that don't get documented?
BILL: I think that casting shows are pretty good at teaching someone how to present themselves and how to handle the media. There are candidates who can handle that pretty well. Whereas there are others, whom I can only advise to just keep their mouths shut.

• Bill, when you were twelve, you yourself participated in the Sat-1-Show "Star Search", but you didn't make it to the finals. Was that your big lucky moment?
BILL: This at least shows that getting kicked out also presents you with a new chance. We were extremely lucky that someone discovered us as a band and that we got to experience a type of cinderella story.

• So, your career with Tokio Hotel is therefore the best example that a Superstar doesn't necessarily have to be found in a casting show?
TOM: In the US casting shows like "American Idol" have indeed found a few stars that were extremely successful and who, like Kelly Clarkson, won a few Grammys. But to be real, here in Germany - and it doesn't matter which casting show we're talking about - no successful artist ever came out of one.

• Why? Is the quality of the candidates in the US better?
TOM: The US has a whole other music market. Here, in Germany, we have very few new artists that are able to have a career in the long run.

• But you managed it. Would you advise a young musician to go and take part in a casting show?
TOM: A lot of candidates come to the casting and don't really have anything to do with music. They might like to sing and think that they're pretty good at it, but there are very few candidates who really put their heart and soul into it.

• Did that surprise you?
TOM: Most of them only want to try it out and aren't very serious about it. That's why I would ask a young musician first: What have you done for yourself? What did you invest into your musical career? And then you really have to look into it - if a casting show really is the right path for him or her. Then again, finding another path it also getting considerably hard these days.

• Why?
TOM: Because the music industry has lost a lot of money in the past few years. The record labels have less money and they don't invest in newcomers anymore.

• Not only the music industry, but also casting shows have to report a drop in ratings. "DSDS" has been pulling in pretty bad ones, some which the show the last time had when it first aired ten years ago. Is the "Casting-Show-Boom" in Germany over?
BILL: You always have to look at this in relation to the other casting show. "DSDS" still has the best ratings. That's the reason why I wouldn't generalize that casting shows don't have a future on TV anymore. It always depends on the candidates.

• And on the entertainment value of the jury. Why did you decide to be a part of "DSDS"?
BILL: We were always in the mood for watching new talents. We've also been getting requests from all possible casting show formats for years, but we just didn't have the time. "DSDS" just came in at the right time.

• Do you plan on taking part in other TV-Formats after „Deutschland sucht den Superstar“ or is that enough for now?
BILL: Next to working on "DSDS", we are currently in the studio, working on our new Album which is set to be released this year. I'm already getting jittery when I see all the candidates making music and not us as a band. We really want to start again.

Translation by Icey @ LoveTH-Music.com

Source: http://bit.ly/XG6u9q

Måske finder vi ikke en superstjerne


DSDS-dommerne Bill og Tom Kaulitz åbner op for nogle hemmeligheder, dårlige anmeldelser, deres band Tokio Hotel og giver unge musikere nogle tips.

Bill og Tom Kaulitz, hvad er det sværeste for jer: At lave musik, eller at tale om musik som DSDS-dommere?
Tom: At bedømme kandidaterne er ikke så svært, fordi det aldrig har været vores mål at være super søde eller super strenge i showet. Vores mål er at bedømme kandidaterne, som vi ville have gjort det hvis vi havde siddet derhjemme på vores sofa og set showet. Hvad jeg skulle vænne mig til var at blive filmet hele tiden. Det bryder jeg mig virkeligt ikke om. Jeg kan ikke lide det mere end jeg kan lide at høre min egen stemme på en optagelse, eller se billeder af mig selv. Sådan var det allerede da jeg gik i skole. Jeg hader det.

Har du så ikke valgt det forkerte job, eller...?
Tom: Video-optagelse og photoshoots er klart en stor del af det, men at spille live og producere musik er mere mig. Med Bill er det anderledes.
Bill: Jeg tænker ikke rigtigt over, at der er en masse mennesker der ser DSDS, eller over hvordan jeg formulerer mig i showet...
Tom: ... Det burde du.
Bill: Min strategi er at være så ærlig som muligt.

Som en del af juryen er I ansvarlige for at finde Tysklands næste "Superstar". Hvad betyder "Superstar" for jer?
Bill: Det er noget, man ikke helt kan forklare. Følelsen af at man ikke kan få nok af at se den person på scenen, at denne person forbliver et mysterie for dig. Det er en særlig udstråling.
Tom: Mange af kandidaterne kommer hen til os og siger: "Vil I ikke give mig en chance til, jeg kan forbedre mig!" men hjælper det dem slet ikke, snarere tværtimod. Der handler om et særligt talent og potentiale, som man ikke kan lære folk. jeg tror også at flere og flere mennesker bærer rundt på det talent hele deres liv, uden at gøre noget ved det. Derfor kan det ske at vi slet ikke finder en superstjerne i sidste ende, i dette her show - men chancerne for at finde en er ikke dårlige!

Hvad nyt er der ellers? Alle de forrige DSDS-vindere har været på hitlisterne, men ingen af dem var superstjerne.
Tom: Det er selvfølgeligt svært for vinderne, fordi der er en ny sæson af DSDS hvert år, og derfor også en  ny superstjerne hvert år.
Bill: Held spiller også en stor rolle. I sidste ende handler det om hvilken kandidat seerne vælger som vinder. Måske var mange af de beslutninger, vi har taget i showet indtil nu, dårlige.

Det er også muligt at dem, som redigerer programmet som superstjernen er med i, klipper mange af de ting væk som gør personen til en superstjerne. Så deres fulde potentiale ikke bliver dokumenteret?
Bill: Jeg synes, at castingshows er ret gode til at lære folk hvordan de bedst præsenterer dem selv, og hvordan de håndterer medierne. Der er nogle kandidater, der håndterer det ret godt. Og så er der andre, til hvem mit bedste råd er at de bare skal holde munden lukket.

Bill, da du var tolv deltog du i showet "Star Search", men du klarede den ikke til finalen. Var det dit store heldige øjeblik?
Bill: Dette viser i det mindste, at det at blive smidt ud også kan give dig nye muligheder. Vi var utroligt heldige at nogen opdagede vores band, og at vi oplevede en slags Askepot-historie.

Så jeres karriere med Tokio Hotel er altså et godt eksempel på, at castingshowsene ikke altid genkender en superstjerne?
Tom: I de amerikanske castingshows som "American Idol" har de fundet et par stjerner, som er blevet virkeligt succesfulde og, som Kelly Clarkson, har vundet et par Grammy's. Men for at være helt ærlig, så er der aldrig kommet en stor sanger ud af castingshowsene i Tyskland - ikke et eneste af dem.

Hvorfor? Er de amerikanske kandidater bedre?
Tom: USA har et helt andet musikmarked. Her, i Tyskland, er der meget få artister som er er i stand til at få en karriere i det lange løb.

Men I klarede den. Ville I opfordre unge artister til at deltage i castingshows?
Tom: Mange kandidater kommer til casting og har slet ikke noget musisk talent. De kan måske lide at synge, og tror at de er gode til det, men der er meget få kandidater som virkelig lever sig ind i det med hjerte og sjæl.

Overrasker det dig?
Tom: De fleste af dem vil bare gerne prøve det, og mener det ikke seriøst. Det er derfor, det er vigtigt at de unge artister først spørger sig selv: Hvad har du gjort for dig selv? Hvor meget har du investeret i din musikkarriere? Og så skal man virkelig prøve at kigge fremad - er et castingshow virkeligt den rigtige vej for dig? Men så alligevel, nu om dage er det svært at komme ind i musikindustrien på andre måder end gennem et castingshow.

Hvorfor det?
Tom: Fordi musikindustrien har mistet en masse penge gennem de sidste par år. Pladeselskaberne har færre penge, og investerer ikke så meget i nytilkomne mere.

Ikke kun musikindustrien, men også castingshowsene oplever at deres bedømmelser bliver dårligere. DSDS har fået nogle ret dårlige anmeldelser, nogle som er tilsvarende til dem, de fik for 10 år siden, da showet startede. er "castingshow-boomet" i Tyskland ved at være ovre?
Bill: Man skal altid se det sammenlignet med de andre castingshows. DSDS har stadig de bedste bedømmelser af dem alle sammen. Det er derfor, jeg ikke vil påstå, at castingshows ikke har en fremtid i TV mere. Det afhænger altid af kandidaterne.

Og så er der underholdningsværdien for juryen. Hvorfor besluttede I at være en del af DSDS?
Bill: Vi er altid interesserede i at finde nye talenter. Vi har også fået tilbud fra andre castingshows gennem årene, men vi havde bare ikke tid til dem. DSDS kom på det helt rigtige tidspunkt.

Har I tænkt jer at deltage i andre TV-programmer efter DSDS, eller er det nok for nu?
Bill: Udover at være med i DSDS er vi i studiet i øjeblikket, hvor vi arbejder på et nyt album som skal udgives i år. Jeg bliver rastløs allerede nu, hvor jeg ser kandidaterne lave musik, og ikke os. Vi vil virkelig gerne i gang igen.


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